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Hi All - I posted about our flea problem a few weeks back, but now I have a question along a different line. Has anyone used Vectra and found it to NOT work or had their pup scratch MORE after application? We are one week into our second application and I am noticing a pattern . . . About two weeks into the first application I called our vet because Gracie was still scratching crazily (which causes matting-ahhhh) and I was still picking live, seemingly healthy fleas off of her. I know it will take awhile to get the infestation under control, (and, yes, we are addressing house and cat as well) but I wasn't expecting to find live, happy fleas. The vet tech that I talked to didn't seem surprised--it will take up to 3 mos., etc., etc. and suggested a couple of doses of Capstar and reapplication of Vectra one week early. I did a little research of my own and found this to be a somewhat common course of action. I'll try to get to the meat of the matter here. We did the second application of Vectra last weekend and Gracie is once again scratching like crazy. When I think back, I am realizing that her scratching had lessened prior to that second application, which is leading me to believe that this is a reaction to the Vecta. She doesn't have any welts or red areas--just a lot of scratching. Also, it seems like she's paying a lot of attention to her genital area which is making me wonder if the Vectra chemicals are in her urine too and causing itching in that area as well. I am going to bath her this morning and I do not plan to use Vectra again. Not sure what I will do next--can't use Frontline--it no longer works for us, so am now thinking about Advantix. Would love to use nothing, but that is no longer an option as both fleas and ticks are rampant in NE PA. Thanks for your thoughts. CJ

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Comment by CJ, Gracie, and Quinn on February 27, 2012 at 9:10pm

Am already using Interceptor every 45 days, so I would need to stop that if I went with Comfortis or Revolution. The problem with Comfortis is that I would still need to treat for ticks and all tick applications that I know of also treat for fleas so I would feel like I was overdosing. I read that Revolution can take up to 5 days to kill a tick, and that would be way past the time of Lyme transmission. With our track record, I can't risk it. However, I do use Revolution for my cat, Sophie. I think I will stick with the Interceptor for Heartworm, which means that I am on the hunt for a combination flea and tick treatment. I'm not keen on the idea of a collar. I'm a bit of a feak about ALL of this--try to close my mind to the chemicals I'm loading on, but I don't think I can deal with the constant physical evidence of a collar. Plus I'd be touching it all the time . . . You can see where I'm going with this :}  I did take our cat to the vet this weekend and talked to our vet about the Vectra and other options. She went through several alternatives (she herself uses Vectra) and I walked out of the exam room thinking I would get Advantix (which they didn't have at the vet), but then while waiting to pay, decided to pick up an application of Frontline Plus. I did the flip at the last minute because I was dwelling on the fact that Advantix is toxic to cats (so is the Vectra), but that was kinda stupid since this whole merry-go-round started because the Frontline failed and Gracie got fleas AND Lyme disease. I know . . . nut case! So, I have about 2-3 weeks to decide what to do. I'm honestly not entirely crazy, I just really, really, really don't like chemicals so this is all very hard for me. Thanks for your input--keep it coming! 

PS Lois - One of my girlfriends has a husband who is an exterminator. I asked him about nematodes and he laughed at me! Ha! I'm still going to check into it!

Comment by Lois - Izzi on February 27, 2012 at 1:29pm

fully understand issue with groomers    it will be awhile before mine see another..  I love Love Laurie's dogs but know she spends alot of time daily grooming...   after all my ranting I can understand the two inch clips on others..   LOL

Comment by Lois - Izzi on February 27, 2012 at 1:25pm

both here are biting legs  ??   I can find no reason, and thinking 'just' dry skin.   They go for yr.ly  update in March  Ill wait until then.   teaspoon of olive oil can fix the dry skin and Grapevine is dry and dusty these past few weeks...   anyway Vet should know if there is a local problem..  

Comment by Holly Ingle on February 27, 2012 at 11:14am

btw I love D-mat conditioner and Tropiclean is an all natural product ...even their bottles are recyclable.

 

Comment by Holly Ingle on February 27, 2012 at 10:18am

Living in Tennessee the fleas and ticks are rampant here as well.   I am not a big fan of revolution although it does good for heartworm and intestinal worm protection I feel it is not as effective on fleas and ticks as it should be. (for dogs..the cat one seems to work better ..but cats also groom themselves which helps)  If frontline is not working for you I would probably switch to Advantix or possibly even Comfortis.  Comfortis is a pill that is made by the same company as capstar.  It will take care of intestinal parasites, heartworms and is awesome with fleas.  It however does not do ticks :(  There are tick collars such as "Preventix" which are put on every 3 months if you feel that is necessary. I hope this helps.....what did your Vet suggest?

Holly 

Comment by CJ, Gracie, and Quinn on February 22, 2012 at 7:43am

Hi Lois - "Things" seem to be better :} Still a litttle scratching, but way less intense and Gracie seems not to be biting at her feet and legs at all anymore. I am making my way through the mats. Unfortunately Gracie's stint of scratching and biting coincided with very busy school days/evenings  (teacher) and I was not being an attentive groomer :(  My biggest problems were her "ankle" areas where her biting really did a number. For the most part, I used my sharpest small scissors to cut through the thicker mats and then used the dematting comb and then the slicker and finally the regular comb. Before I got the hang of it, I managed to create this very cute (not) little cutout around her one ankle. Most people probably wouldn't notice it on quick glance, but I do. I will definitely get ahold of a bottle of D-Mat. I'm game for trying just about anything to make the grooming easier. Don't know if you remember, but I'm the one who won't take her dog to a real groomer. Silly, I know, but I think I'm past the point of changing my mind, and I'm getting better with the clippers. It's her face and ears that I really struggle with. She's had a couple of bad hair weeks :{, the learning curve is a little greater in that area! Her eyebrows are almost half way grown out now . . . Going to the vet with cat this weekend and will have a chat with vet about replacing the Vectra. Okay - off to school - Have a good day!

Comment by Lois - Izzi on February 22, 2012 at 1:07am

I'm just looking into newest blogs and notice you haven't added an update...  love to hear how 'things' are going....   Ps... while I was rereading thought of mats and Izzi...  I use D-Mat by Tropclean on Izzi.. I spray on my hands, rub through her coat, bursh and then comb...    whatever doesn't just comb out I clip off.....   Works really well for me.    After my groomer opps, she is finally growing out to around 3 inches in length...   legs are beginning to match body...  Anyway hope this is helpful.

Comment by CJ, Gracie, and Quinn on February 18, 2012 at 6:11pm

Hmmm...Nematodes--That really sounds interesting and right up my alley--I SO dislike chemicals. I'm going to check into that! And I'll also look into Revolution. It's what I use for our cat; don't know why I've never considered it for our dogs. Thanks Lois. And . . . Post bath-Gracie has just about stopped scratching and biting. I'm feeling pretty sure that the Vectra does not agree with her. Now if I can just get all these mats out without having to cut too much or shave her down . . .

Comment by Lois - Izzi on February 18, 2012 at 6:00pm

ask Vet about Revolution... cost is high but keeps these two heart healthy and repeals fleas and ticks.

Comment by Lois - Izzi on February 18, 2012 at 5:54pm

 persistent flea problem:  nematodes . The nematodes feed on flea larvae but are harmless to humans. They are used as sprays and cause no damage to trees and plants.

Has to be sprayed by professionals.. Once had a friend with infested cats.  She had this done inside and property..   If I remember correctly the service was guaranteed to last a year.  

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