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Okay, I realize that I'm fairly new to this forum and I certainly don't want to be a traitor to this community because I'm eternally grateful for the opportunity to participate in a world driven by some Dood lovin'; however, I was slightly taken aback when I started researching the conditions surrounding becoming a "recommended breeder" for this website.  I respect all of the requirements surrounding the actual back-end operations side of things, I also appreciate the strict adherence to the quality of the puppies' health for each breeder, but I practically fell out of my chair when I read that there's a $650 (Canadian)/year!  Don't misunderstand me, I'm not completely naive and understand the importance of funding when you're trying to support a "free forum."  I just disagree with presenting the "Preferred Breeders" list as being based SOLELY on the recommendations of Dood owners, health criteria of pups, and breeder professionalism.  

The reason this blog post came about was simply because my husband and I believe that our baby, Buttercup, came from an absolutely wonderful breeder (Lil Doods and Dazzle Doodles) so I was really looking forward to sharing her information.  If someone provides an amazing service or in this case, presents my family and I with a gift like our 15 pound Miniature, I want to share it with others.  You can imagine my excitement when I discovered this Doodle kinship had a recommended breeder list...I thought to myself, what a perfect opportunity to send referrals to Dazzle Doodles and give others the opportunity that I had only to discover that there's an annual fee required to participate.  And not just any fee, but an outrageous one at that!

Now, allow me to clarify my position to some degree: I am not here to critique the business practices of others.  Obviously my ignorance runs fairly deep in terms of the "behind the scenes" maintenance associated with a forum as extensive as this one.  I suppose what I'm searching for is an explanation...or someone to shine light on the situation because it is my opinion that if there is a fee required to join, the "Owner recommends" page should be changed to reflect the fee to become a sponsored breeder instead of the marketing currently revolving around suggestions based on member opinion alone.  I've included links below for reference and please let me reiterate, I am looking for information regarding this topic; perhaps something I don't see.  Please, share your thoughts with me.  

http://goldendoodles.com/breeders.htm

http://goldendoodles.com/breeders2/criteria.htm

Thanks!

Angie, Chad, and Buttercup

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Comment by Grace and Pemon The Gentle Giant on January 28, 2012 at 11:45am

I don't know Laurie, sometimes your mean to me!   LOL

Comment by Laurie, Nug & Puk on January 27, 2012 at 10:21pm

This is why I Love this website (besides the fact that I now know that I am not the only crazy Doodle owner out there). Never any mean or nasty comments.

Angie you had a very valid question and asked it without being rude!

And of course Jan in all her wisdom always answers so professionally!

Great job ladies!

Comment by Grace and Pemon The Gentle Giant on January 26, 2012 at 7:08pm

Hey..................I'm not ready to go to bed yet!   But you are absolutely right Bruce.  My sentiments exactly.  I was going to say the same thing, you just had a better way of saying it.  Thanks

Comment by Bruce Anderson and Ginger on January 26, 2012 at 3:19pm

I'm reminded of all the advertisements on TV...."The OFFICIAL rent-a-car of the NFL", or ..."The OFFICIAL drink of Major League Baseball"...."The OFFICIAL Beer of....whatever ".....ever stop to think what that REALLY means ?  It means they paid a fee to be able to say that.

To my way of thinking, being able to advertise on this website ...(and being "recommended" IS an advertisement...) if you can meet the qualifications set out, you should really not be adverse to paying a fee.  I'm glad Jan pointed out that even paying the fee, you GOTTA meet the requirements.

Remember, several years back, AARP was chastised because they let ANYONE use their name in their ads if they paid a fee ?  So, AARP had no criteria to meet...just pay the fee and you can say that your product is AARP recommended....they STILL do that, especially some of the medicare supplement insurance stuff.  After the bad publicity, however, I'll bet they cleaned up their act some and do some background checks before letting people use their name....something Blue and Jan and company have done all along.

So, Angie...I think you're in Good Hands here (pun intended !!)  And, for me, I welcome all the blogs, both foolish (mine ) and serious (all the others...)  ....and thanks, Jan, for monitoring us...we certainly need somebody to reign in the foolishness !

Say goodnight, Gracie......8^)

Comment by Margaret and Opie on January 26, 2012 at 2:42pm

I agree - I had no idea there was a charge for breeders.  BUT as Angie put it well 'we've all gotta eat'.  If blue spends his full time building and maintaing this wonderful site - I have no disagreements to the breeders fee.  I mean geesh - its free to all of us and that is a gift.  This site has been so amazing with both support from new found friends to also being very informative.  I am very greatful to of found this site as I have stated many times before.  After Jan explained it - it does make sense.  A good question was raised - and a very professional, clear and positive answer was given.  Well done!

Comment by Grace and Pemon The Gentle Giant on January 26, 2012 at 2:37pm

I only have one thing to say.   You know Grace, she always has something to say.  I think the whole situation has been handled professionally and I'm glad it is resolved.  I've said it before and I say it again, the is a wonderful community, with wonderful people and beautiful Doodles.  It really has changed my life and I love it!

Comment by Angie Rupp on January 26, 2012 at 12:16pm

This is exactly the type of information I was hoping would be included in responses.  As I mentioned in the post, I understand the importance of generating funding to maintain a forum of this magnitude; I mean...we've all gotta eat, right?

It was just more of a surprise than anything else when I was conducting my research, and, I'm sure I can speak for majority of the members of this site when I say that we're all a little obsessed with our animals and dare I say...a little overprotective?  Haha.  They're our babies so it's only natural that we want to feel certain that our babies and their "kind" are being supported in a way that will be beneficial to all.  

I also feel comfortable in assuming that this forum/community functions as a lynchpin in members' growing fixation with their Doods.  We love them and want to share them with the rest of the world; hence the reason we support this virtual biosphere and predominantly the reason this platform is so successful.  

I appreciate you taking the time to respond to my post; I can imagine it's probably not the ideal situation so I respect the fact that you addressed my concerns and helped put mine and others' minds at ease.  As I've stated a few times already, it was never my intention to disparage you or this forum because it's amazing; I wouldn't be here if it wasn't.  However; because the primary purpose of this site is about engaging with one another, I felt it was important to share this information with others.  One of our sole objectives as human beings is to question and to dig especially when a particular person is fairly inexperienced with something and craves a deeper understanding of certain processes.

Thank-you for setting my mind at ease to some degree by taking the time to respond to a potentially "uncomfortable" post and thank-you for providing such a wonderful home for all of us "over-the-top" animal enthusiasts...we have to seek refuge somewhere.  Lastly, I'm grateful that you allow members to share their opinions openly without micromanaging; that exhibits much about the integrity of this community.

 

Comment by Jan, Lily & Nessy on January 25, 2012 at 11:38pm

Thank you for your concerns.

First and foremost, no breeder is listed on the Goldendoodles.com Owner Recommended Breeders List without meeting the criteria ( http://goldendoodles.com/breeders2/criteria.htm ) and providing consistently positive feedback from owners.   Negative feedback can and has gotten breeders de-listed (and their fee returned).   The owner recommended breeders list is the only one on the internet anywhere that actually requires continued positive feedback and honest treatment of the animals and the customers, and no amount of money can buy a place on the list for those who do not meet these standards.

Blue works full-time maintaining the feedback and growing the website.   The http://Goldendoodles.com website is over 1080 pages.  I work part-time maintaining the website.  There are a couple of Moderators for this ning community and our other forums.  While it would be nice if it could all be done by donated labor, none of us are independently wealthy.  The small fee breeders pay annually provides a modest income for Blue, and helps me out a bit.

So for those of you who only know us by this small corner of Goldendoodles.com,  please take the time to check out http://goldendoodles.com - it's loaded with resources, training advice,  and fun stuff.  Use the search box, it actually works and no annoying google ads, lol ;)

Respectfully,

Jan, Moderator

Comment by Margaret and Opie on January 25, 2012 at 10:44pm

Ya that would be nice - it does seem sorta weird. 

Comment by Angie Rupp on January 25, 2012 at 8:14pm
I know; I had no idea either. I'm certainly not trying cause an uproar, just thought it was important to share. And I was hoping that maybe others know more than I do about the process and could explain it to our community.

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