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Lesser of all evils for flea; tick; heartworm prevention??

Hi Everyone and Happy Holidays!! I've been away from this group for quite some time now, but it's reassuring to see the same familiar names. I hope all are well! I am here today for your caring expertise . . . Gracie needs a regime for prevention of fleas and ticks (both prevalent in our area) and heartworm. I have been round and round on this . . . was using Interceptor (now no longer available) and Frontline (proved to be not 100% reliable). Switched to Heartguard and Frontline and we are now dealing with a flea problem. I spent about 30 minutes at the vet yesterday going over all my options, and I left with a dose of Trifexis (never used before) and a dose of Capstar (have used two or three times in the past), and the knowledge that I still need to figure out how I am going to address the ticks! I gave Gracie the Capstar yesterday afternoon--no problems and I am assuming that all adult fleas are now dead. I gave her the Trifexis this AM with her breakfast and within an hour she threw up the whole lot. I am waiting for a call back from the vet, but I am not feeling enthusiastic about redosing the Trifexis. I DESPISE all of the options, but unfortunately have to do something. I have googled extensively and of course have unearthed a slew of pros and cons for evertything on the market! So . . . any suggestions from the community??

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Comment by Grace and Pemon The Gentle Giant on July 24, 2013 at 9:44pm

See, that's what I love about this community.  You learn something new everyday.  Thanks Lois and Laurie.

Comment by Laurie, Nug & Puk on July 24, 2013 at 8:51pm
Heartgard plus is better Grace, it takes care of intestinal parasites too. But you are right, it does not protect against fleas and ticks.
Comment by Grace and Pemon The Gentle Giant on July 24, 2013 at 8:48pm

Oh, when we take Pemon to the Vet in a couple of weeks I'm going to have her write a script for the Heartgard Plus.  Better protection.

Comment by Grace and Pemon The Gentle Giant on July 24, 2013 at 8:47pm

Lois we give Pemon Heartgard.  Just regular.  and it guards against Heartworms.  Now Heartgard plus says it guards against Heartworms, Hookworms and Roundworms.  Doesn't say anything about fleas and ticks.  We also give Pemon K9 Advantix II for fleas, ticks, lice and mosquitos.  Have I got this wrong?  I looked up both products in Petco.

Comment by CJ, Gracie, and Quinn on July 24, 2013 at 5:43pm
Well, I really mixed up that one - ha! :P But, after reading what you said about Heartgard, I googled "difference between Heartgard and Heartgard Plus." I read an FAQ section on Drs. Foster and Smith and on another site and I went to the Heartgard website. They all say "plus" has the added bonus of taking care of intestinal worms--which is I guess the connection to the contaminated water, but no mention of fleas or ticks. My vet didn't mention it either. Our conversation revolved around what flea/tick preventative I was going to use along with the Heartgard. I'm going with it doesn't take care of fleas and ticks. If it did, I think the HG company would advertise the heck out of that!

Good to get caught up with the community again. I love being involved with this group, but it tends to take over big hunks of my life - Ha!

Thanks for the happy b-day - Off to enjoy a a nice dinner and a nice glass of wine :)
Comment by Lois - Izzi on July 24, 2013 at 2:33pm


Nice to hear from you...  the Incident with Charlie took place nearly two yrs ago... He needed meds and topical creams to heal..  He was itchy for weeks after using Revolution.

You said you are using Heartguard..  I'm told by my Vet that with Heartguard Plus I don't need any thing else as that  product takes care of ticks and fleas also...   My two are in woods and fields often and I haven't had a single issue..     Can find my flyer, but when they get their yearly checkup and vaccinations  also inclues VL     records show DA2PPLV   ...  Found flyer --- Most important to me after Ivermectin is protection against contaminated  water... the VL  or maybe just the L  stands for Lepospirosis.     

My dogs are in and out of slow running streams (TX is still under dry conditions and every critter in the park is drinking and urinating from 5 or 6 different areas)  The Lepospirosis injection kills live  Mosquitoes eggs and leptospira bacteria..   Vaccinations are routinely administered in  until a few years ago that was not done unless requested. 

Vaccinations are given once a yr .... and I see they take Heartguard Plus monthly..  I don't think you need frontline.   I haven't had any problems with fleas or ticks. 

I done know anything about Trifexis but do trust Jan, and Lauie..


Comment by CJ, Gracie, and Quinn on July 23, 2013 at 11:03pm

Hi Lois - Sorry about Charlie :( I ended up sticking with the Trifexis throughout the winter months, and when tick season rolled around, I switched back to Heartguard and Frontline Plus. I was told that Frontline begins to lose its effectiveness before the 30 days are up, so I have been applying it more diligently. So far so good, but I also don't think the fleas have been as bad this year--haven't heard much complaining in this area. Hope you get the nasty vermins under control. 

Comment by Lois - Izzi on July 23, 2013 at 10:44pm

CI   any problems with flees this year???

Charlie was scratched himself bloody (over night and crated) 1st time I ueed Revolution on him..  Both of mine have been on Heartgard Plus for over two yrs now with no fleas, ticks, hookworms... all...  Main Ingredient being Ivermectin...  Ivermentin used to be in tube that we dosed horses, dogs and cats with monthly... at that time the dogs were around stables daily..

Just sort of catching up with you and wondering if you had a problem this yr.

Comment by Laurie, Nug & Puk on December 30, 2012 at 10:09pm
CJ, I am so glad that worked for her. That seems to work for any of our sensitive Doodle tummies.
Can't help you with the snow issue. No snow here. Wish there was but only for a day:)
Comment by CJ, Gracie, and Quinn on December 30, 2012 at 8:58pm

Well . . . she kept down both half-doses of Trifexis with no sign of side effects. Thanks for that suggestion Laurie. I guess I'll stick with this through the winter. Once the tick season begins again, I'll have to deal with that, but for now, I think we're good!

Lots of snow here! Doods + Snow = Snowballs!! Anybody have any great success with boots?

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