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Hi,  We have a 7 month old golden doodle - Hudson who weighed 35 pounds 2 weeks ago.  We were told that he should be about 50-55 pounds as an adult.  I am currently feeding him Chicken Soup for the Soul for large breed puppies.  I am also feeding him Grandma Mae's Country Natural for puppies.  I mixed the two together.  Hudson seems to prefer Grandma Mae's dogfood over the Chicken Soup but I believe that it is do to the size of the kibble.  Chicken Soup is larger.  So my question - being that Hudson should be about 55lbs (I hope) is he considered a large breed dog and do I have to worry about the ratio of calcium to phosphorus and the problem with hips for large breed dogs?

Thanks for all your help!  

Anita and Hudson

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Comment by Anita Gilbert on February 4, 2016 at 7:41pm

Thanks CJ and Gracie.  I am using dog advisor and love their site.  I decided to become a member to access more info.  I am going to look into grain free food.  I like the idea of less poops!  Hudson has eaten her last two meals basically in one sitting.  I think I may have been over feeding him.  I know they say one cup per ten pounds but, I think it also depends on the size of the kibble.  I am still mixing the Chicken Soup for large breed puppies (1 cup) and Grandma Maes Natural for Puppies (1/2 cup) two times a day.  Fingers crossed!   Thanks again.

Comment by CJ, Gracie, and Quinn on February 4, 2016 at 6:59pm

and OH! Hudson is a very handsome boy!!

Comment by CJ, Gracie, and Quinn on February 4, 2016 at 6:58pm

We started Gracie on Chick. Soup Large Breed as well. It's hard to remember the timeline, but we did switch to Blue Buffalo for a very brief while and then to Fromm grain free, which we have been feeding for a few years now. We started with Game Bird and then when we got our second pup, he seemed to have some allergy problems, so we switched to Salmon a la Veg and the itching stopped. I remember Gracie being a little finicky with the Chicken Soup, but with the Fromm she has always eaten both the AM and PM meals with no hesitation. Gracie is an aussiedoodle--just under 60 lbs. We felt the Fromm ingredients were good for her. Our other pup is an Irish Wolfhound/standard poodle mix and he needs low protein and as it turned out the Fromm grain frees are all low protein. There are lots of good high quality kibbles out there, you just have to do a little homework and a lot of reading of small print :) I tend to use "dogfoodadvisor" quite a bit as a resource. It is a food rating Website that provides lots of nutritional and ingredient information for many, many varieties of food.

Comment by Administrator Jan on February 1, 2016 at 6:32pm

Some doodles are picky eaters.  My Lily is one, and until I tried various flavors and ended up trying fish based food, did she gain a real appetite.   Before that, she would wander away from her bowl, and my other dog, Nessy, would help herself to the point of needing to be put on a diet.

My local privately owned pet supply had more free or low cost (small) samples - a helpful way to figure out what flavors were popular with both my dogs.  That helped narrow down the list a lot!

Good luck!

Comment by Anita Gilbert on January 31, 2016 at 4:05pm

Thanks Jan.  I guess I should talk to the vet about an "All Life Stage Food"  e are still adjusting to food, and when he doesn't eat within 1hr I take it away.  But he is not hungry because when I put it down at the next meal, he does not wolf it down.  Also I do like the notion of grain free food.  Hudson currently goes poops 3-4 times a day, way to much in my opinion.  Will definitely look into.  Thanks!

Comment by Administrator Jan on January 31, 2016 at 1:12pm

Oh, and if messing with all the calculations is a bother, you can simply compare the feeding recommendations on the bags to see how huge a difference in amount fed can be between foods with fillers (corn, wheat, etc.) and foods without (a.k.a. grain free).  Almost all dog food companies have all the information on their websites, so it's easy to compare at your leisure.

Comment by Administrator Jan on January 31, 2016 at 1:07pm

Ok well if he weighs 35 pounds at about 28 weeks, then the growth chart ( http://goldendoodles.com/care/growth_chart.htm ) predicts he'll be between 45-50 pounds full grown.  All things being approximate. ;)  That does make him a large breed dog, (not giant breed, just large ;)

When my two were little, their Vet recommended  "All Life Stages" or adult food starting at 6 months or even earlier (it's been a long time, but I think he actually told me to change food at about 4 months).

Now, at ages 12 and 11, the girls both weigh about 45 pounds each.  They have no joint problems.

I and a lot of others feed grain-free food.  I'm currently using Earthborn Holistic Grain Free - Coastal Catch (my dogs do well on fish based foods).  Some dogs like fish, some like the other protein options available.

One thing that you will notice is that the price of grain free foods seem high, but when you compare how much food you actually have to feed to those foods with all the grain fillers, they really aren't terribly different.  The big difference is in the "output" (fillers == more poop).  There is a dog food calculator tool at: http://goldendoodles.com/care/food_calculator.htm that helps you compare foods & price per day.   The more information you give the tool, the more information it will calculate.  Use whole numbers only (I never quite got decimals working, lol ;)  Also, because your dog is a growing puppy, not an older dog needing a diet, definitely stick to using the information calculated for MER (Maintenance Energy Requirements), as the RER would be too little food!

Hope this helps!

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