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I asked for input on this awhile back and I am now revisiting the whole idea. I am looking for "the perfect doodle brush," if there is such a thing. I do my own grooming and I seem to be lousy at keeping mats from developing when I let Gracie's hair get long. I know the technique (line brushing), and I'm pretty sure I am getting all the way to the base of her hair. Everything will be good for awhile, but it seems like almost overnight, BAM, mat-city! So then it's back to a short hair cut and we begin the cycle again. I should say that I can't seem to find the time to do a full grooming every day and that in itself might be the entire problem :(  But . . . I still am looking for a best brush. I recently sent an inquiry to "showdogstore.com" and they suggested Chris Christensen's brass pin brush. They said it would glide through her soft fleece coat and help to prevent mats from developing. If any of you doodle-folks use C.C. brushes or have a favorite all-round brush, I'd love to hear suggestions. Thanks!

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Comment by Beverly and Eli on January 24, 2014 at 8:54am

Thanks!!

Comment by Debbie & Trixie on January 24, 2014 at 8:32am

Beverly, you can get it on Amazon. It is a "conditioner and detangler", and I think it really helps.

Comment by Beverly and Eli on January 24, 2014 at 8:19am

Wow Kris, where is this available. Eli was shaved down a week ago and I really want to avoid this again if I can. The static is awful (winter and dry heated house).

Comment by Harrison, Brodie & Kris on January 23, 2014 at 11:17pm

My friend told us about a detangling spray called "The Stuff". I use it on Harrison when I brush him every night. It keeps him from matting and also helps keep him a little cleaner between shampoos. Additionally it keeps the static down, and smells good.. Hope this helps..

Comment by Janet Vreeland on November 15, 2013 at 6:41pm

This is miss skinny legs, can't help it they all have such long legs when they get clipped close they are so skinny. I try to get it long but I think all of us Doodle owners have the same problem. I seems like the Type1 their hair isn't as curly so I don't think it matts like the Type 2, oh well I love her anyway. She hates to be groomed she fights me tooth and nail!!! 

Comment by Janet Vreeland on November 15, 2013 at 6:38pm

Comment by CJ, Gracie, and Quinn on November 15, 2013 at 6:33pm

Thanks Janet - You make me feel a little less inadequate ;p  I have Gracie down to about a half inch on her body and about an inch on her legs. The hair on her legs has never been this short. I keep calling her "skinny legs." Even though it is short, I am still cutting through some mats on her legs. I'm making progress, but I'm mad at myself because I really blew it this time! It's not the short haircut that bothers me (it will grow), it's that Gracie is growing tired of our recent dematting routine and I can't say that I blame her! I keep the sessions short, but we are both looking forward to an end to the snipping and the almost unavoidable pulling. I'd like to say never again, but you what they say about saying "never!"

Comment by Janet Vreeland on November 15, 2013 at 12:39pm

I wish I had a suggestion to offer, but I really don't. I have been in a family of groomers for the past 40 years there is no easy way of keeping doodles from getting matted. I had to just shave Lilly because I couldn't get the clipper with the guard threw her coat. Just as you stated it is like you groom, groom, groom and they just matt. I can't let her coat get any longer than about 1-2" or I have to use a 7 blade (one of the longest blades) to get threw the thick coat. I see so many photos on here with the long coats I don't know how they do it. My sister owns a kennel and is a groomer, she says the same thing, her customers want the coat long but in order to do it she has brush and comb it is too time consuming. My dad (also a groomer) used to us a matt splitter but they can be fairly dangerous if not used properly. I found just really keeping her brushed (at least twice a week) it helps. Sorry I can't be more help.

 

Comment by CJ, Gracie, and Quinn on November 12, 2013 at 6:34pm

Thanks Debbie - What you say makes sense and you are correct about the coat variety/brush issue. I guess my concern is that this brush (the Chris Christensen brass pin brush) is close to $50. I don't mind spending the money on a good brush, and I know the C.C. brand is quality and will last a long time. But I don't want to spend the money only to discover it doesn't do the job. So short version . . . Does anyone have any experience with this brush used on a long, soft, wavy coat?

Comment by Debbie & Trixie on November 12, 2013 at 10:27am

I have read opinions both ways about the use of people shampoo on dogs...I personally don't, but I know a lot of people do with good results.  This is what they say on the raising healthy dogs website:

"Lots of people like to use human shampoo on their dogs.  They may use their own shampoo or they think it’s a good idea to use a tearless baby shampoo.  Actually, it’s not a good idea to use a human shampoo on your dog.  Your dog’s skin has a different pH level from yours.  Shampoo made for your hair and scalp is formulated with a different pH level than your dog needs.  In fact, human shampoo is usually too harsh for a dog and if you use it over a long period of time, it will often make a dog’s hair dry and harsh by stripping the natural oils from his skin and fur.  Using a human shampoo on your dog can make his skin dry and itchy.  That’s why you should use a good dog shampoo when you bathe your dog.

On the other hand, if you talk to professional dog groomers, they may tell you that they do use human shampoos when they bathe dogs, or even dish detergent.  However, dog groomers are professionals and they know what they’re doing when it comes to bathing and conditioning dogs.  Plus, they have to bathe and groom some very grungy dogs each day.  When it comes to bathing your dog at home, it’s best to use a good dog shampoo that is formulated for your dog’s skin and coat.  Choose a shampoo that suits his particular kind of coat (silky, wire, short and coarse).  Use a conditioner if necessary.  And make sure that you rinse well so you avoid creating any hot spots."

 

I think the large variety in coat type (very curly to silky) among the various doodles makes it difficult to say what brush would be best.  What works well for one won't necessarily work well on another.  It's probably a trial and error process to find what works best on your particular dog.

 

Happy Grooming! :)

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